Hi everyone,
I wanted to post the written conformation about a few hard ciders that are available. Some turn out to be legal and others don't or some companies only have certain varieties that are legal.
It is always a good idea to call or email the company about their ingredients because some of the ingredients are not listed!
A sample letter to a company:Hi there, just wanted to see if your ciders contain any added sugars? (dextrose, alcohol sugar, cane, etc) or any starches or other ingredients besides cider, yeast, citric acid, etc. I have pretty serious food allergies and notice that some of your bottles do not have ingredients on them.
Thank you!
Tucker
Tucker
Here are the cider companies I have contacted so far.
Blue Mountain Cider Company
Cheers!
Crispin Hard Cider
Hi
tucker, thanks so much for your question. Our ciders do contain a small
amount of cane sugar to help develop the ciders into alcohol. That is
just for the original, some of the others are mostly sweetened with
honey or other natural sugars but would still include a little cane
sugar for the yeast to eat. Does that answer your question fully?
Tucker Sweeney
Tucker Sweeney
Ok thank you. So the added cane sugar is added before the cider is fermented and not after as a sweetener?
Tucker
Crispin Hard Cider
Tucker
Crispin Hard Cider
That's correct yes. Cane sugars are added before, any sweetener after is just juice, honey, maple syrup, etc.
***As far as I know, as long as the small amount of sugar was added before the fermentation it would still be considered SCD legal. It would be the same process as taking illegal milk and fermenting it into legal yogurt. Crispin and Fox always list whether they add apple juice, honey, or other sweeteners like maple sugar , molasses, etc. so just look at the label. Another tip is to look at the grams of sugar in the bottle. It should be under 10-12 grams. Angry orchard for example (not legal) has more than 20 grams of sugar per bottle.
Tucker Sweeney
***As far as I know, as long as the small amount of sugar was added before the fermentation it would still be considered SCD legal. It would be the same process as taking illegal milk and fermenting it into legal yogurt. Crispin and Fox always list whether they add apple juice, honey, or other sweeteners like maple sugar , molasses, etc. so just look at the label. Another tip is to look at the grams of sugar in the bottle. It should be under 10-12 grams. Angry orchard for example (not legal) has more than 20 grams of sugar per bottle.
Tucker Sweeney
To: Ace Cider Company and Angry Orchard Cider company,
Love your cider but wanted to check with you about the ingredients because I follow a very strict diet for allergies and health issues.
Do your ciders contain any sweeteners or starch that are not listed on the label (corn, cane sugar, artificial sugars, etc.) This would include added sugars in the apple juice concentrate or in any natural flavors. Naturally occurring sugars in apple juice are fine. If they do which have added sugars and which do not?
Thank you very much for your time,
Tucker Sweeney
Ace Cider
Love your cider but wanted to check with you about the ingredients because I follow a very strict diet for allergies and health issues.
Do your ciders contain any sweeteners or starch that are not listed on the label (corn, cane sugar, artificial sugars, etc.) This would include added sugars in the apple juice concentrate or in any natural flavors. Naturally occurring sugars in apple juice are fine. If they do which have added sugars and which do not?
Thank you very much for your time,
Tucker Sweeney
Ace Cider
All natural Tucker just fruit juices.
Angry Orchard
Tucker,
I am sorry about the delay. Your message unfortunately got lost in our que. We are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Crisp Apple, Traditional Dry and Apple Ginger all have HFCS in them.
Cheers,
If anyone else has contacted cider companies about SCD legality please comment so we can increase our knowledge base.
Till next time,
Tucker
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Angry Orchard
I am sorry about the delay. Your message unfortunately got lost in our que. We are sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Crisp Apple, Traditional Dry and Apple Ginger all have HFCS in them.
Cheers,
Wyder's Cider
Thanks for writing in and your interest in our ciders. Wyder’s Cider does
contain added corn sugar, which is added in after the fermentation process.
I hope this helps and let me know if you have any further questions.
Cheers,
Wyder’s Cider.
First here is my email...
Hi Nat, I was at the tap room yesterday and your employee was super helpful in helping to educate me on what ciders would like be okay and not okay for me to drink.
I have some serious health issues which prevent me from drinking anything that contains added sugars (polysaccharides - dextrose, alcohol sugar, cane sugar, etc.) or any starches or other ingredients besides cider, yeast, citric acid, etc.
She informed me that the revival dry would be a good place to start since there's no concentrate added after the ferment. She also said she was pretty sure that the concentrate added to other ciders has absolutely no sugars in it besides the straight monosaccharides from the apple - no sucrose or other polysaccharides. Can you confirm this is true?
Also, I was really intrigued when she shared that one of the ciders is made with lactobacillus instead of yeast. Would you be able to share which strain of lactobacillus you use?
Thank you so much for the info Nat. Looking fwd to being a loyal customer :)
Nat's reply...
Revelation Newtown Pippin has apple juice, fermented to dry and backsweetened with apple juice concentrate. There are no other ingredients in the concentrate or the single strength juice. I only know of fructose, not the monosaccharides you speak of.
Revival Dry is bone dry and only ever had apple juice in it.
Deliverance Ginger Tonic has pure cane sugar, aka white sugar aka sucrose.
Hallelujah Hopricot has apple juice and apricot/peach juice concentrate. Like the Newtown it's just fructose but I can't speak to anything else naturally found in apricot and peach juice.
Sacrilege Sour Cherry is the lactobacillus one you're talking about. It contains apple juice and cherry juice concentrate both pre and post fermentation. We use Wyeast 5335 american lacto in it.
Hope you can make use of this info and thanks for the email.
Schilling Hard Cider
Reverand Nat's Cider
First here is my email...
Hi Nat, I was at the tap room yesterday and your employee was super helpful in helping to educate me on what ciders would like be okay and not okay for me to drink.
I have some serious health issues which prevent me from drinking anything that contains added sugars (polysaccharides - dextrose, alcohol sugar, cane sugar, etc.) or any starches or other ingredients besides cider, yeast, citric acid, etc.
She informed me that the revival dry would be a good place to start since there's no concentrate added after the ferment. She also said she was pretty sure that the concentrate added to other ciders has absolutely no sugars in it besides the straight monosaccharides from the apple - no sucrose or other polysaccharides. Can you confirm this is true?
Also, I was really intrigued when she shared that one of the ciders is made with lactobacillus instead of yeast. Would you be able to share which strain of lactobacillus you use?
Thank you so much for the info Nat. Looking fwd to being a loyal customer :)
Nat's reply...
Revelation Newtown Pippin has apple juice, fermented to dry and backsweetened with apple juice concentrate. There are no other ingredients in the concentrate or the single strength juice. I only know of fructose, not the monosaccharides you speak of.
Revival Dry is bone dry and only ever had apple juice in it.
Deliverance Ginger Tonic has pure cane sugar, aka white sugar aka sucrose.
Hallelujah Hopricot has apple juice and apricot/peach juice concentrate. Like the Newtown it's just fructose but I can't speak to anything else naturally found in apricot and peach juice.
Sacrilege Sour Cherry is the lactobacillus one you're talking about. It contains apple juice and cherry juice concentrate both pre and post fermentation. We use Wyeast 5335 american lacto in it.
Hope you can make use of this info and thanks for the email.
Schilling Hard Cider
Hi Tucker,
Thanks for reaching out!
All of our ciders are fresh pressed juice based and we
normally don't back-sweeten or blend. However there are a few exceptions
to this. On some batches the juice ferments beyond our target and we
will back-sweeten
with cane sugar. (We have not needed to do this on any recent batches).
We try to avoid this as much as possible, but given your dietary
restrictions this is the case for a few batches. Also our summer
seasonal is made with cane sugar as part of the recipe
so you should certainly avoid that one.
Hope this helps!
Colin Schilling
Colin Schilling
If anyone else has contacted cider companies about SCD legality please comment so we can increase our knowledge base.
Till next time,
Tucker
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Reverand Nat's Cider is a gold mine! Here is info straight from Nat himself about his different ciders...
ReplyDeleteFirst here is my email...
Hi Nat, I was at the tap room yesterday and your employee was super helpful in helping to educate me on what ciders would like be okay and not okay for me to drink.
I have some serious health issues which prevent me from drinking anything that contains added sugars (polysaccharides - dextrose, alcohol sugar, cane sugar, etc.) or any starches or other ingredients besides cider, yeast, citric acid, etc.
She informed me that the revival dry would be a good place to start since there's no concentrate added after the ferment. She also said she was pretty sure that the concentrate added to other ciders has absolutely no sugars in it besides the straight monosaccharides from the apple - no sucrose or other polysaccharides. Can you confirm this is true?
Also, I was really intrigued when she shared that one of the ciders is made with lactobacillus instead of yeast. Would you be able to share which strain of lactobacillus you use?
Thank you so much for the info Nat. Looking fwd to being a loyal customer :)
~Scott
"Simplicity is the key to brilliance." ~Bruce Lee
Nat's reply...
Revelation Newtown Pippin has apple juice, fermented to dry and backsweetened with apple juice concentrate. There are no other ingredients in the concentrate or the single strength juice. I only know of fructose, not the monosaccharides you speak of.
Revival Dry is bone dry and only ever had apple juice in it.
Deliverance Ginger Tonic has pure cane sugar, aka white sugar aka sucrose.
Hallelujah Hopricot has apple juice and apricot/peach juice concentrate. Like the Newtown it's just fructose but I can't speak to anything else naturally found in apricot and peach juice.
Sacrilege Sour Cherry is the lactobacillus one you're talking about. It contains apple juice and cherry juice concentrate both pre and post fermentation. We use Wyeast 5335 american lacto in it.
Hope you can make use of this info and thanks for the email.
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ReplyDeleteUsing your standard email example, here is what Portland Cider Company said:
ReplyDeleteHi Amber,
Our ciders are sweetened only with unfermented fruit juices, primarily fresh apple juice, but depending on the flavor, other fruits as well. Our Pearfect Perry, which is made from fresh pressed pear juice instead of apple juice is sweetened with a very small amount of cane sugar, note that pears also have naturally occurring Sorbitol in them.
There are no starches in any of our ciders.
Jeff
The Apple Stops Here
Portland Cider Co.
Here's another one from Anthem cider and Wandering Aengus Cider:
ReplyDeleteHi Amber. Our Ciders are apples, and the yeast to ferment. Anthem Pear we had Pear juice after ferment. Hops we add dry hops after ferment. Anthem Cherry we add Bing Cherry juice after ferment. All our Wandering Aengus brands are strictly apples.
We have a seasonal release of Honeycrisp where one of the batches is not gluten free, but the label clearly marks it.
Does this answer your question?
Great post, thanks for doing this research. I knew there was something fishy about some of the more popular ciders on the market. Upon first sip I can usually tell if HFCS or "natural flavors" are added. Nice to know at least the companies are honest when asked. I love hard cider, and also brew my own at home. I try to avoid artificial sweeteners as much as possible...wish these products were labeled better so that the consumer can make better choices!
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